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01/26/2022 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE

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01:33:23 PM Start
01:34:00 PM HB99
02:10:52 PM Adjourn
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*+ SB 127 UNFAIR CLAIM SETTLEMENT PRACTICES TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
*+ HB 99 PHYSICAL/OCCUPATIONAL THERAPY BD/PRACTICE TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 99 Out of Committee
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
          SENATE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                        
                        January 26, 2022                                                                                        
                           1:33 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Mia Costello, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator Joshua Revak, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator Peter Micciche                                                                                                          
Senator Gary Stevens                                                                                                            
Senator Elvi Gray-Jackson                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 99                                                                                                               
"An Act relating to the State Physical Therapy and Occupational                                                                 
Therapy Board; relating to the practice of physical therapy; and                                                                
relating to the practice of occupational therapy."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 99 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 127                                                                                                             
"An Act establishing a private cause of action for unfair claim                                                                 
settlement practices; and amending Rules 79 and 82, Alaska Rules                                                                
of Civil Procedure."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     - BILL HEARING CANCELED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  99                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: PHYSICAL/OCCUPATIONAL THERAPY BD/PRACTICE                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) CLAMAN                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
02/18/21       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/18/21       (H)       HSS, L&C                                                                                               
02/19/21       (H)       HSS REFERRAL REMOVED                                                                                   
02/19/21       (H)       FIN REFERRAL ADDED AFTER L&C                                                                           
02/19/21       (H)       BILL REPRINTED                                                                                         
03/05/21       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/05/21       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/05/21       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/12/21       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/12/21       (H)       Moved HB 99 Out of Committee                                                                           
03/12/21       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/15/21       (H)       L&C RPT 6DP                                                                                            
03/15/21       (H)       DP: SNYDER, NELSON, MCCARTY, SCHRAGE,                                                                  
                         KAUFMAN, SPOHNHOLZ                                                                                     
03/26/21       (H)       FIN AT 2:00 PM ADAMS 519                                                                               
03/26/21       (H)       <Bill Hearing Canceled>                                                                                
04/09/21       (H)       FIN AT 9:00 AM ADAMS 519                                                                               
04/09/21       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/09/21       (H)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
04/12/21       (H)       FIN RPT 6DP 2NR                                                                                        
04/12/21       (H)       DP: ORTIZ, EDGMON, LEBON, THOMPSON,                                                                    
                        MERRICK, FOSTER                                                                                         
04/12/21       (H)       NR: WOOL, JOSEPHSON                                                                                    
04/12/21       (H)       FIN AT 9:00 AM ADAMS 519                                                                               
04/12/21       (H)       Moved HB 99 Out of Committee                                                                           
04/12/21       (H)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
05/18/21       (H)       TRANSMITTED TO (S)                                                                                     
05/18/21       (H)       VERSION: HB 99                                                                                         
05/19/21       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
05/19/21       (S)       L&C, FIN                                                                                               
01/26/22       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MATT CLAMAN                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor of HB 99.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
LIZZIE KUBITZ, Staff                                                                                                            
Representative Matt Claman                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented the sectional analysis for HB 99                                                                
on behalf of the sponsor.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ALEC G. KAY, Alaska President                                                                                                   
American Physical Therapy Association;                                                                                          
President, United Physical Therapy                                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
LEEANNE CARROTHERS, Director                                                                                                    
Allied Health at UAA;                                                                                                           
Alaska Government Affairs Liaison                                                                                               
Alaska Physical Therapy Association                                                                                             
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT: Answered  questions and  provided supporting                                                             
information during the hearing on HB 99.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SARA CHAMBERS, Director                                                                                                         
Division of Corporations, Business, and Professional Licensing                                                                  
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the  hearing on HB
99.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
KEITH POORBAUGH PT, ScD, Chair                                                                                                  
State Physical Therapy and Operational Therapy Board                                                                            
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:33:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MIA COSTELLO called the  Senate Labor and Commerce Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 1:33  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order  were  Senators Gray  Jackson,  Revak,  Stevens, and  Chair                                                               
Costello.  Senator  Micciche arrived  during  the  course of  the                                                               
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
        HB  99-PHYSICAL/OCCUPATIONAL THERAPY BD/PRACTICE                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:34:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO announced  the consideration of HOUSE  BILL NO. 99                                                               
"An Act relating  to the State Physical  Therapy and Occupational                                                               
Therapy Board; relating to the  practice of physical therapy; and                                                               
relating to the practice of occupational therapy."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:34:43 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  MATT CLAMAN,  Alaska  State Legislature,  Juneau,                                                               
Alaska, Sponsor of  HB 99, read the  following prepared testimony                                                               
to introduce the legislation:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Good  afternoon  members  of  the  Committee,  for  the                                                                    
     record,  my name  is Matt  Claman, and  I am  the State                                                                    
     Representative   for   House   District  21   in   West                                                                    
     Anchorage.  First,  I  would  like  to  thank  you  for                                                                    
     hearing House Bill  99. We often talk  of making Alaska                                                                    
     open and ready  for business. House Bill  99 makes sure                                                                    
     we're  open and  ready  for the  business of  providing                                                                    
     physical and occupational therapy.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     My office  introduced House Bill  99 at the  request of                                                                    
     the   Alaska   Physical    and   Occupational   Therapy                                                                    
     Associations.  House  Bill   99  amends  the  governing                                                                    
     statutes  for  physical  therapists,  physical  therapy                                                                    
     assistants,  occupational  therapists and  occupational                                                                    
     therapy assistants practicing  in Alaska. These changes                                                                    
     are  designed to  bring Alaska  statutes  in line  with                                                                    
     national  standards and  terminology, and  overall make                                                                    
     the  administrative experience  of these  professionals                                                                    
     smoother and up to date.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:35:39 PM                                                                                                                    
     House  Bill  99  is  supported by  the  State  Physical                                                                    
     Therapy and Occupational  Therapy Board, which believes                                                                    
     HB 99  will help the Board  in its work to  protect the                                                                    
     public. A letter  stating that support is  in your bill                                                                    
     packet.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Currently,   physical   therapists,  physical   therapy                                                                    
     assistants,  occupational therapists,  and occupational                                                                    
     therapy  assistants,  are   represented  by  the  State                                                                    
     Physical Therapy  and Occupational Therapy  Board. This                                                                    
     board  is  made up  of  one  physician, three  Physical                                                                    
     Therapists,  two   Occupational  Therapists,   and  one                                                                    
     member  of  the  public.  House  Bill  99  removes  the                                                                    
     physician  from  this  board, and  replaces  them  with                                                                    
     another occupational  therapist, thereby  balancing the                                                                    
     representation of  the professions on the  board. There                                                                    
     is  good  reason  for  this.   When  this  statute  was                                                                    
     originally   written,   the   work  of   Physical   and                                                                    
     Occupational   therapists   required  referral   by   a                                                                    
     physician. This  has not  been the  case in  Alaska for                                                                    
     more than thirty years.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     House Bill  99 also enables  the board to  discipline a                                                                    
     therapist who  commits infractions under  AS 08.84.120,                                                                    
     such as  conviction of a  felony, gross  negligence, or                                                                    
     abuse of  alcohol. Currently the board  has the ability                                                                    
     to revoke or  deny a license based  on infractions, but                                                                    
     has no ability to discipline.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Additionally, House  Bill 99 clarifies the  language in                                                                    
     the  requirements  for  those therapists  who  received                                                                    
     their  training  outside  of the  U.S.,  ensuring  that                                                                    
     their  training is  equivalent  to  a U.S  professional                                                                    
     Physical Therapy  Training program, and  also exempting                                                                    
     therapists trained in an  English language program from                                                                    
     having to take an English proficiency test.                                                                                
     Furthermore,  this  bill  updates  language  in  Alaska                                                                    
     Statute that  references an accrediting entity  that no                                                                    
     longer  exists, and  makes the  language more  general,                                                                    
     allowing the  state board to designate  the appropriate                                                                    
     accrediting entity as needed.  Several other updates to                                                                    
     terminology are made to update the language.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     House Bill  99 does  not constitute a  restructuring of                                                                    
     the  relevant  statute, but  it  contains  a number  of                                                                    
     long-awaited  changes  that  will make  it  easier  for                                                                    
     professionals to  do business in Alaska.  I'll pass you                                                                    
     off now to Lizzie Kubitz,  who can walk you through the                                                                    
     sectional analysis.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:37:47 PM                                                                                                                    
LIZZIE KUBITZ, Staff, Representative Matt Claman, Alaska State                                                                  
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, presented the sectional analysis                                                                   
for HB 99 on behalf of the sponsor. It read as follows:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1                                                                                                                
     AS 08.84.010. Creation and membership of the board.                                                                        
     Removes the seat  for a physician and  balances out the                                                                    
     board with  3 physical  therapists or  physical therapy                                                                    
     assistants   and    3   occupational    therapists   or                                                                    
     occupational therapy  assistants along with  one public                                                                    
     member, to make up the  7-member board. It also changes                                                                    
     the  term  "physical  therapy assistant"  to  "physical                                                                    
     therapist  assistant" in  this  section and  throughout                                                                    
     the entire  statute. This change  is to conform  to the                                                                    
     industry title used nationally.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2                                                                                                                
     AS 08.84.030. Qualifications for licensing.                                                                                
     Allows the  board to have  broader authority  over what                                                                    
     entities   will  have   accreditation  oversight   over                                                                    
     physical  therapy  &   occupational  therapy  education                                                                    
     programs. Some  of the  accrediting entities  listed in                                                                    
     statute  are now  either renamed  or  no longer  exist,                                                                    
     making that statute obsolete.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2  removes language  from the  statute relating                                                                    
     to additional  supervised field work  that occupational                                                                    
     therapists  must  complete  as these  requirements  are                                                                    
     covered by the accrediting bodies.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3                                                                                                                
     AS 08.84.032. Foreign-educated applicants.                                                                                 
     Changes   the  section   headline  from   "trained"  to                                                                    
       ducated."  New   language  is  added   that  requires                                                                    
     foreign-educated   physical   therapist   or   physical                                                                    
     therapy   assistant  students   to   have  attended   a                                                                    
     "substantially" equivalent educational  program that is                                                                    
     accredited  by a  U.S.  accreditation  entity that  has                                                                    
     been  approved  by  the board.  Outdated  and  obsolete                                                                    
     language is removed that can  be found on page 4, lines                                                                    
     3 -9 of this bill.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Added  to subsection  (3) of  this section  is language                                                                    
     that  would  require  that   a  physical  therapist  or                                                                    
     physical therapist assistant  pass a test demonstrating                                                                    
     competency  of  the  English  language  only  if  their                                                                    
     program was  taught in  a foreign  language. Subsection                                                                    
     (4)  requires that  a foreign-educated  applicant is  a                                                                    
     legal alien or a  U.S. citizen. Subsection (7) requires                                                                    
     them  to  pay  the  required fee  and  meet  any  other                                                                    
     qualifications  for licensure  set by  the board  under                                                                    
     08.84.010(b).                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     All the above  changes in Section 3  are replicated for                                                                    
     occupational   therapists   or   occupational   therapy                                                                    
     assistants on page  4, lines 27-31 and over  to page 5,                                                                    
     lines 1-22.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:39:36 PM                                                                                                                    
     Section 4                                                                                                                
     AS 08.84.060. Licensure by acceptance of credentials.                                                                      
     Makes conforming terminology changes.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5                                                                                                                
     AS 08.84.065(c). Temporary changes.                                                                                        
     Makes conforming terminology changes.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 6                                                                                                                
     AS 08.84.075(b). Limited permit.                                                                                           
     Makes conforming terminology changes.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 7                                                                                                                
     AS 08.84.075(c). Limited permit.                                                                                           
     Changes language that would now  require that a limited                                                                    
     permit is valid for 120 consecutive days.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 8                                                                                                                
     AS 08.84.075(d). Limited permit.                                                                                           
     Allows only one limited permit per 12-month period.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section 9                                                                                                                
     AS 08.84.090. Licensure.                                                                                                   
     Updates licensure terminology.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:40:01 PM                                                                                                                    
     Section 10                                                                                                               
     AS  08.84.120(a). Refusal,  revocation, and  suspension                                                                    
     of license.  Adds disciplinary action as  a possibility                                                                    
     to actions a board might  consider for an infraction of                                                                    
     their  licensure and  updates terminology  in item  (7)                                                                    
     and states in  (9) that failure to comply  with the law                                                                    
     or regulations  or order of  the board might  result in                                                                    
     disciplinary action or suspension of a license.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 11                                                                                                               
     AS 08.04.130(a). False claim of license prohibited.                                                                        
     Adds updated credentialing and terminology.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 12                                                                                                               
     AS 08.84.130(b). False claim of license prohibited.                                                                        
     Updates terminology.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 13                                                                                                               
     AS 08.84.190. Definitions.                                                                                                 
     Adds  a   new  paragraph  defining  the   updated  term                                                                    
     "physical therapist assistant."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:40:31 PM                                                                                                                    
     Section 14                                                                                                               
     AS 11.41.470(1). Definitions.                                                                                              
     Updates  definitions  in  criminal  law/sexual  assault                                                                    
     statute.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 15                                                                                                               
     AS 47.17.290(14). Definitions.                                                                                             
     Updates   terminology   under  definitions   in   child                                                                    
     protection statute. 3                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 16                                                                                                               
     AS 08.84.190(7). Definitions.                                                                                              
     Repeals subsection  (7), which is the  definition using                                                                    
     outdated term of  physical therapy assistant; according                                                                    
     to  Leg. Legal,  when the  actual "term"  used for  the                                                                    
     definition is being changed, the  entire citing must be                                                                    
     repealed.  The new  definition is  set out  on page  8,                                                                    
     Section 13, lines 11-14.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 17                                                                                                               
     Applicability                                                                                                              
     Sets out  the applicability  clauses for  licensure for                                                                    
     sections 2 and 3 of this Act and for sections 7 and 8.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 18                                                                                                                 
     Uncodified law                                                                                                             
     Transition   language  for   the   board  vacancy   and                                                                    
     appointments for  the PT/OT board, and  states that the                                                                    
     changes do not  apply to current licensees  until it is                                                                    
     time for  their licensure renewal and  then all changes                                                                    
     to the law will apply                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:41:39 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COSTELLO  asked if  the  physician  seat would  fall  open                                                               
immediately  if  the  bill  were  to  pass,  so  an  occupational                                                               
therapist could  be appointed  or if the  physician in  that seat                                                               
would fill out their term.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN deferred to Ms. Kubitz.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KUBITZ said  she  would defer  to either  Alec  Kay or  Sara                                                               
Chambers, or she would follow up with the information.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:42:38 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON asked the sponsor  if he said that referrals                                                               
from a doctor have not been required for 30 years.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN replied that is correct.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON asked  if  it is  insurance companies  that                                                               
require referrals.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN related  a personal  experience to  answer                                                               
the  question.  His  chiropractor  suggested he  see  a  physical                                                               
therapist  and that  he could  schedule  an appointment  directly                                                               
because insurance  companies do not  require a referral.  He made                                                               
the appointment and the insurance  company paid the claim without                                                               
question.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON related  that  she was  told  she needed  a                                                               
doctor's referral to make a PT appointment.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN said  that for many years he  was under the                                                               
impression  that a  doctor's referral  was necessary  to make  an                                                               
appointment with a physical therapist, but it is not necessary.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON commented that now she knows the rules.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:44:34 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS  commented that he  visited a  physical therapist                                                               
yesterday with  a note from his  doctor. He asked if  that is the                                                               
only rationale for removing the  physician seat from the board or                                                               
if there has been a problem having a physician on the board.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN replied the  rationale is to create balance                                                               
on the board between occupational  and physical therapists. Also,                                                               
the level  of training for  physical therapists has  increased to                                                               
the Ph.D.  level, which  was not  the case  when the  statute was                                                               
written. He deferred to Mr. Kay for more detail.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS  asked  for an  explanation  of  the  difference                                                               
between occupational and physical therapy.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN  replied they  are separate fields,  and he                                                               
would defer to Mr. Kay for the distinction.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO turned to invited  testimony. She asked Mr. Kay to                                                               
respond  to  the  questions  he heard  and  explain  the  medical                                                               
training needed  to become a physical  therapist and occupational                                                               
therapist.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:46:56 PM                                                                                                                    
ALEC  G.   KAY,  Alaska  President,  American   Physical  Therapy                                                               
Association;  President,  United   Physical  Therapy,  Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska,  explained that  when the  practice  act was  established                                                               
about 50 years ago, the  profession of physical therapy was under                                                               
the supervision  of the American Medical  Association. Since then                                                               
PT  has evolved  into  its  own profession.  He  agreed with  the                                                               
sponsor that  the education requirements  have also  evolved such                                                               
that all  physical therapists  now must  hold a  doctoral degree.                                                               
The profession  is practicing more autonomously  now as evidenced                                                               
by the direct access the committee was discussing.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
To  Senator  Gray  Jackson's question,  he  explained  that  some                                                               
government  sponsored insurance  such as  Medicare and  Medicaid,                                                               
some unions, and  some others require a doctor's  referral to see                                                               
a physical  therapist, but the  law does not require  a referral.                                                               
He posited  that some  physical therapy  offices may  blanket ask                                                               
patients to bring  a referral to make sure they  are paid timely.                                                               
He  related his  experience  that in  the 30  years  he has  been                                                               
practicing, the  licensing board either  has not had  a physician                                                               
in  the physician  seat  or the  physician in  the  seat was  not                                                               
engaged. He acknowledged  he was not familiar  with the physician                                                               
in the  seat currently.  He opined  that replacing  the physician                                                               
seat  with an  occupational therapist  or occupational  therapist                                                               
assistant would be more useful to the board's mission.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:49:47 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STEVENS  asked  for an  explanation  of  the  difference                                                               
between an occupational therapist and a physical therapist.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. KAY deferred to Dr.  Carrothers. He added that another reason                                                               
to support the bill is that  it gives the board some disciplinary                                                               
control. This  will be helpful  because there are many  levels of                                                               
potential  infraction  and not  all  warrant  taking the  license                                                               
away.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO asked how many patients  he sees who do not have a                                                               
doctor's referral.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KAY replied  60 percent  arrive  without a  referral from  a                                                               
doctor;  35 percent  are Medicare  or Medicaid  and 5  percent of                                                               
people with insurance have a doctor's referral.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO asked if he is allowed to offer sports physicals.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. KAY replied  that he can do functional assessments  but it is                                                               
not  within the  purview of  a physical  therapist to  assess for                                                               
underlying cardiac issues. He  acknowledged that school districts                                                               
have different policies.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:52:37 PM                                                                                                                    
LEEANNE  CARROTHERS,  Director,  Allied  Health  at  UAA;  Alaska                                                               
Government  Affairs  Liaison  for  the  Alaska  Physical  Therapy                                                               
Association,  Anchorage, Alaska,  stated  that  her testimony  is                                                               
related to her role in  the Physical Therapy Association, not the                                                               
university.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:53:33 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MICCICHE joined the committee.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARROTHERS responded  to the  question about  the difference                                                               
between  the  professions  by  explaining   that  the  paths  are                                                               
different but both professions work  to help people regain skills                                                               
to  return to  daily living.  Physical therapists  work on  gross                                                               
motor  skills such  as  standing  up and  walking  from point  to                                                               
point,  whereas  occupational  therapists  focus  on  fine  motor                                                               
skills  involved in  activities such  as dressing,  grooming, and                                                               
bathing.  OTs  also work  on  cognitive  rehabilitation after  an                                                               
illness or  injury when people  have difficulty with  such things                                                               
as thinking and  problem solving. She acknowledged  that PTs work                                                               
on cognitive rehabilitation as well but more so for OTs.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS  asked if OTs  primarily focus on  getting people                                                               
back to work.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARROTHERS explained that in  the definition of "occupational                                                               
therapy" occupation  refers to activities and  chores that people                                                               
need  to  do in  their  lives,  whether  it  is paid  or  unpaid.                                                               
Activities  of  daily  living include  things  like  getting  up,                                                               
getting dressed, and  getting groomed and chores  of daily living                                                               
include things like cooking and feeding.  She said there is a lot                                                               
of overlap  between the  professions but  two distinct  bodies of                                                               
knowledge are required.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO  asked Sara  Chambers, if the  bill were  to pass,                                                               
whether  the governor  would be  able to  immediately appoint  an                                                               
occupational therapist  to what is  now the physician seat  or if                                                               
the physician's term would have to run its course.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:57:21 PM                                                                                                                    
SARA CHAMBERS, Director, Division  of Corporations, Business, and                                                               
Professional  Licensing, Department  of  Commerce, Community  and                                                               
Economic Development,  Juneau, Alaska, stated that  Section 18 on                                                               
page 9 has transition language  that allows the current physician                                                               
to continue  to serve  his term. She  relayed that  the physician                                                               
currently on the board is very active and engaged.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO  asked  when  the term  for  the  physician  seat                                                               
expires. She  also noted that  the language  on page 9,  line 17,                                                               
says, "may serve," which provides some flexibility.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:59:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  CHAMBERS answered  that the  physician was  reappointed last                                                               
year so his current term ends March 2025.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:59:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO opened public testimony on HB 99.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:59:37 PM                                                                                                                    
KEITH  POORBAUGH  PT,  ScD, Chair,  State  Physical  Therapy  and                                                               
Operational Therapy  Board, Wasilla,  Alaska, said  the physician                                                               
currently serving  will be  missed, but it  is important  to have                                                               
equal  PT and  OT representation  on  the board.  He agreed  with                                                               
previous testimony  that the  training, education,  and expertise                                                               
for  these  professions  has  increased  since  the  statute  was                                                               
written.  These   advances  warrant   having  a  board   that  is                                                               
representative of the professions,  he said. The proposed changes                                                               
will align with  other states and allow direct access  to PTs and                                                               
OTs without a physician referral.  He noted that the provision to                                                               
allow  the board  broader scope  to  address disciplinary  action                                                               
also reflects the  advances in the professions. On  behalf of the                                                               
board, he stated support for HB 99.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:01:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STEVENS  asked  for  the  difference  in  education  and                                                               
training requirements between PT and OT professions.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DR.  POORBAUGH   answered  that  there  has   been  a  developing                                                               
separation of  the two  professions over last  30 years.  He said                                                               
the greatest distinction is that  PTs are focused on movement and                                                               
function,  and  OTs are  focused  on  activities and  fine  motor                                                               
skills. The training is similar  for basic anatomy and physiology                                                               
but diverse for  aspects of treatment.  He  acknowledged that the                                                               
professions work hand in hand.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS said he appreciated the explanations.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:03:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO  found no  one else wished  to comment  and closed                                                               
public testimony on HB 99.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:04:09 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:05:26 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO reconvened the meeting.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:05:34 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON  asked Ms.  Chambers if there  was a  way to                                                               
appoint an  [OT] now to  achieve balance, and when  the physician                                                               
term expires that seat goes away.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CHAMBERS replied  that  adding  a seat  to  the board  would                                                               
require an  amendment to the bill.  As the chair noted,  she said                                                               
the physician could  resign and that position could  be filled by                                                               
a  person  qualified  under  the  bill.  She  suggested  that  is                                                               
probably the easiest way to move forward.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON said  she raised  the question  because the                                                               
physician currently serving has been  described as such an asset,                                                               
but she would defer to the committee.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO asked if this issue came up in the other body.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN said no, and his  sense is that if the bill                                                               
passes the physician will likely resign.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO   said  the  state   has  over  200   boards  and                                                               
commissions and  she is always  amazed at how much  personal time                                                               
Alaskans devote to  serving on these boards  and commissions. She                                                               
thanked all  the people who  serve and  said her support  for the                                                               
legislation in no way reflects  on the physician who is currently                                                               
serving. She publicly thanked that member.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON thanked  that member and the  members of all                                                               
the boards and commissions.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:10:10 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  REVAK moved  to report  HB 99,  work order  32-LS0506\A,                                                               
from  committee  with  individual  recommendations  and  attached                                                               
fiscal note(s).                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO  found no  objection and HB  99 was  reported from                                                               
the Senate Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:10:52 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair Costello  adjourned the Senate Labor  and Commerce Standing                                                               
Committee meeting at 2:10 p.m.                                                                                                  

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 99 Sponsor Statement v. A - 1.26.22.pdf SL&C 1/26/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 99
HB 99 Sectional Analysis v. A - 1.26.22.pdf SL&C 1/26/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 99
HB 99 Fiscal Note 2360 - DCCED.pdf SL&C 1/26/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 99
HB 99 Testimony - Received as of 1.25.22.pdf SL&C 1/26/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 99